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Part 2. They're all part of the Infidel motorcycle club, and they were there as a modern crusade, and get paid to do it: A lot of money

[2025-10-10]

The following articles, from Part 1 to Part 5, are transcriptions from the interview video between TRT World (hosted by Paul Salvatory) and Anthony Aguilar, Former Green Beret and Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) worker, shared via TRT World's YouTube channel with the title "Palestine Talks: Anthony Aguilar on 'powerful people' getting rich from Gaza genocide - The GHF is 'not in Gaza to feed anyone", published on Oct 10, 2025, available on: https://youtu.be/UZMugQ22dKk?si=EH9xWsfn2oACZmo6. This Selamat Pagi Gaza Website has no affiliation with the TRT World at all, it only shares the interview in a form of text due to the importance of the conversation in it. Everyone who cares about the future and humanity should watch the video as soon as possible. Hopefully the channel doesn't mind I share it here in the form of text.
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Part 2. They're all part of the Infidel motorcycle club, and they were there as a modern crusade, and get paid to do it: A lot of money

Paul: So, the contractors, are they being tasked essentially to shoot, to kill?

Anthony: So, what is very nefarious about the presence of the UG solutions contractors in Gaza is that nobody, none of the leadership, would take accountability for actions and how things were supposed to be. So, going back to our our entry into Gaza on a tourist visa, under that tourist visa, we had no connection to GHF at all. In fact, they said, you know, "you're not here doing this, this, and this, you're just here as a tourist." No connection to the company that we worked for or GHF. That provides, you know, the ability to say, "Oh, we didn't have any part of that." So, this plausible deniability built into the process. And then, on the sites, before we started distribution, many of us had asked: "we need to have a written standing rules of engagement like this is how you will engage in Gaza with the civilian population, standard operating procedures for escalation of force", meaning: "If I feel threatened, what are my procedures? Do I shoot that individual? Do I try to stop that individual? What's the threat? What level of threat?" That's where all these questions come into legality. "What authority do I have to kill somebody in my self-defense? Or in the defense of something else, someone else? If a Palestinian man is murdering a Palestinian woman in front of me, can I shoot him? Well, I don't know. What's my legal status?" So, when you consider all of that, there were no rules of engagement, there were no standard operating procedures that were codified by the leadership, so going into Gaza, it was more, it was a wildwest, every man for themselves type of mentality, to where, the behavior that the contractors took on as a group, was simply mimicking or doing the same as what the IDF did: "Oh, the IDF shoot at the crowd to disperse them, then we'll shoot at the crowd to disperse them. The IDF yell at them and drive bulldozers to push them back, well, then we'll use pepper spray and stun grenades." It was this acceptance of dehumanizing the Palestinian population, and that not even recognizing them as the population, the civilian population, and that they must be safeguarded in this operation, at all times, meaning providing them food, water, and medical treatment, and that they're safeguarded in doing it. The Palestinians face numerous risks in getting food. One, would they even survive getting there? Once they got there, would they survive getting home? And once they got there, would there even be any food left for them? Because the food was gone very quickly by a very small portion of the recipient. So, many factors going against the Palestinians, even ability to survive, that UG Solutions contractors along with the IDF, it was almost there were, like no rules, because the perception was that the Palestinians aren't even human and that's how they were treated. And it's evil.

Paul: I have to ask, I mean, it's sort of a philosophical question: are these persons who are carrying out these killings, these murders, in how would I put it, in the context where they're not doing that, do they come across as reasonable people but then become murderous when they pick up a gun and are tasked? Do you see like a jarring contrast between who these persons are when they are not killing versus what they're doing? I don't know, when they're, you know, in some other context....?

Anthony: Not a normal life capacity? This cognitive dissonance or like this duplicity of personalities?

Paul: Ya, almost like I want to say, like it's hard to say, but it's like, are these normal people who become ...?

Anthony: Ya, great question. And the answer to that in terms of normal people is yes, but CAVEAT that by saying that, within the group of contractors that were hired under UG Solutions, the majority, not every one of them, but the majority were military veterans in some capacity. Some that served a very short amount of time: Army, Air Force, Navy, Marines, Coast Guard, various services. And then you had those that served for a very long time, such as myself. Varying for levels of experience. And then, there were those that never served in the military. And then there are those that served in law enforcement, various backgrounds. So, seemingly you would see that background as: "oh, people that wanted to serve and do good." However, the evil undertone to that, that isn't always obvious, I didn't see it at first, is that you had a very large portion of the contract group that were members of the infidels's motorcycle club. So, what I would refer to as extremists in their thoughts. I didn't realize that was the case until after about the first day or two while we were in Israel getting ready prepared for operations in Gaza. I noticed that dozens, many, many, many, many, many of the contractors that were there in some form or fashion were brandishing a tattoo that had like a crusader's cross and infidels and it had 1095 on it, which now I know was the year of the first crusades under Pope Urban to, you know, to take back the Holy Land. And I saw so many people with these tattoos and I kind of asked, I was like: "Did I miss the tattoo station? Where did, how did everybody get this tattoo? I didn't get one. Like "what's going on?" Like "was that a stop on in processing?" And it (the club) was like: "no, we're all part of the Infidel motorcycle club. I was like: "That's a thing?" I was like: "You're adults. You're grown adults. You call yourself infidels? As a group? And you tattoo it on your body?" So this was new to me. This subculture. But their belief was that they were there as a modern crusade, they were there, to go there, on this job, to work this contract, for this mission going into Gaza was a pilgrimage, it was a crusade, that it was part of their charter as an organization. So, normal people in the sense of unless you talk to them about Muslims or Arabs, they're normal. But when that topic comes into play, well, their charter and the purpose of them existing is to fight jihad worldwide and to eliminate all Muslims from the earth. That's a pretty extreme viewpoint. In my opinion, that is a very extreme worldview. So when you see individuals like this that are armed with weapons, with impunity, no accountability, going into an area that for the most part the world doesn't care about, it's very easy to then follow that worldview of killing. And on top of it, they see it as: "well, I get to go and harm or kill Muslims and I get paid to do it." A lot of money.

Paul: That's part of the depravity of it, they think they're on, like, a righteous mission.

Anthony: Absolutely. Nothing that they think about in terms of: "hey, these sites are set up that put Palestinians at harm." Hey, we're not giving them enough food to survive. We're not giving them any water. They'll die of dehydration slowly. We're killing them." [They responded]: "Yep. Yep. Yep. You are. Yes."

Paul: This is, I think, this is very important because it's really hard to fathom anything more depraved than shooting and murdering starving persons, Palestinians in this case, and of course, who are simply trying to survive. And it's just unfathomable why anyone would do that. But I think your observation or this insight about this idea, in this, really warped way of it being a kind of crusade, you know, does, I don't want to say help us understand it, but, gives us some sense of the kinds of persons or the subculture as you mentioned that is at work there.

Anthony: It's very easy to follow that path, and feel that what you're doing is right, even though it may be against your own morals and ethics, when the organization you belong to thinks it's right. But then, there's no accountability for your actions, to where anybody else on the outside to see that, to say that's wrong, to tell you that it's wrong. Layer that then with: you're making a lot of money doing it. This is like a day in the life of a UG Solutions contractor: you wake up in a nice fancy hotel, all the contractors were living in either Ashkelon, Ashdood or Beersheba, in beautiful hotels, luxury hotels, that's where you live, every day you wake up, you have yourself a nice breakfast, you get on a charter bus that comes to pick you up. That charter bus takes you down to the border at Karim Shalom to the Gaza-Israel border. You get off the charter bus, get your weapon, look at the board to see what mission you're doing, what site you're going to, which rotation you're on, and you get into your armored military vehicle, and you drive to your site. You're there for either delivery or receiving and distributing. And then your day is done and you get back in your armored car, and you go back to your hotel and by that afternoon or that evening you're sitting poolside, and you're getting paid almost US$1,800 a day to do it. So when you take that into account and then you apply your worldview to what you're doing is right, that quickly becomes very nefarious in that you believe that what you're doing is right. Others that are there, not all of them, not all of them buy into this worldview because there were others that resigned before me, I was not the first, many resigned before me and after me, but there are some that are there where they have zero concern about what they're doing or what they're a part of is wrong. "There's a genocide." [They responded]: "Oh, we know". "We're starving the population." [They responded]: "We know". "We're killing innocent women and children." [They responded]: "We know. And that's a good thing." That's their worldview.

Paul: It's... It's really staggering. It's really staggering.

TRT World, https://youtu.be/UZMugQ22dKk?si=EH9xWsfn2oACZmo6

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